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BadFish Definition

Post by Calm2000 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:51 pm

My son died from a heroin overdose on Jan 19, 2007. He was 21 years old

I am dealing with so many demons...of how I let him down

His ringtone and one of his favorite songs was Badfish....

Can someone please explain this song to me

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by stevie » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:58 pm

Here are the lyrics (the meat of them anyway) to the song. Many people believe he was singing about heroin and this is a song about his regrets for using, and wanting a lifeline to "get off the reef" so to speak. I don't really know what the definition of a "badfish" is, maybe a badfish is an addict?
Im sorry about your son, and Im sorry you feel you have let him down. I hope time will heal these things for you.

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when you grab ahold of me
you tell me that i'll never be set free
but i'm a parasite
creep and crawl i step into the night

two pints of booze
tell me are you a badfish too
(are you a badfish too)
ain't got no money to spend
i hope the night would never end

lord knows i'm weak
won't somebody get get me off this reef

baby your a big blue whale
grab the reef when all duck divin' fails
i swim but i wish i never learned
the water's too polluted with germs

i dive deep when it's ten feet overhead
grab the reef underneath my bed
(underneath my bed)

ain't got no quarrels with god
ain't got no time to grow old
lord knows i'm weak
won't some-body get me off this reef

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Calm2000 » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:06 am

Ya know... I have BadFish as my ringtone on my cell now... it's my silly way of having a link to my son...

And thank you very much for helping me try to understand this song

I almost feel my son was sending a message... and I wasn't listening

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by stevie » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:39 am

Don't do that. You can't blame yourself for these things. It might be helpful to raise awareness about addiction in your community or volunteer at a rehab facility.
Maybe helping to clean up someone else is all you need. Pay it forward.

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by STP » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:34 pm

The song is about surfing (it was influenced by a Ziggens song), but I think it's metaphorical. But wasn't Brad not addicted at the time Badfish was written? Hmm. I guess, I don't know what it is about. Sorry for your loss. My uncle also overdosed. I know it's not the same, but still...
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by stevie » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:34 am

It could be about surfing. i think that when taken everything into consideration, it's hard for me to think of it standing for anything other than an addiction though.

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by vivid » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:27 am

im not a 100% on this, but i think brad was just getting into heroin when he wrote this, and from what ive seen online, a badfish is a junkie or it means someone who likes to shoot ppl up for the first time which apparently brad liked to do. ive seen some vids where bud talks about it and says how he beat the crap out of brad for it. http://en.allexperts.com/q/Sublime-614/Badfish.htm. I just wanna add, i know what your son was going thru, and you can only help someone who really wants help and wants to stop. I've had this song as my ringtone forever.
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Calm2000 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:45 am

I am taking the ringtone off of my cell

I really appreciate all of your comments and thoughts...

I have been trying to hang on to my son... and this song just makes me regresss to bad areas in my mind...

I don't think this song is a positive way to keep his memory

I am going to do my best in making awareness to young people

I guess that sometimes we just have to get past our own pain before we can go forward....

Thank you
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Calm2000 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:55 am

and I must add....

I have this song go over and over in my head all day every day....

And I need to get it out of my brain...

I do not blame his friends... I do not blame anyone other than myself... for not listening....

God, I lost my baby son to this evil

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by vivid » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:48 pm

you shouldnt blame yourself for something you really didnt have any control over. i know my in my state, Mass, if you wanted to force someone into rehab, you can "section" them, and the court orders them into a 30 day rehab. Basically the cops come to your house or where ever you are and cuff you and take u to the police station and then court and then to the rehab place. You're not under arrest they just cuff for theirs and your safety. There are new rehabs opening for this but the main one around here that I've heard of is Bridgewater State Hospital which I've been told is basically like jail. When you get there they give you maybe one clonidine and that's it, no meds to help you kick so everyone in there is kicking cold turkey which sucks. I know if my family or friends ever did that to me, I would resent them forever probably. So like i said before you can't help someone who doesnt want help or want to stop. So don't blame yourself for what happened, maybe just try to make ppl aware of the situation and maybe you can help somebody elses child. The first girl I ever went out with and my first kiss, OD'ed and died a little over a year ago, and the newspapers around here made a big story about it because it wasnt just and inner city problem anymore, it was a white girl in a nice town who died. I think it might have helped a little but I still have known way too many ppl who have lost the war.
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by ballslaW » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:35 pm

I wish there was some sort of wisdom I could pass down at this time but there really isn't. I've lost a few friends to overdoses and to be honest, I kind of became numb to it. Every addict has their own bottom that they have to reach. Unfortunately, for some, that bottom is death. Through an intervention, of sorts, my bottom was forced on me as I was sent away to rehab...again. But I was ready that time so it worked.

It really doesn't do any good to blame anyone, especially yourself, in a situation like this. Even if you had seen this coming, there's nothing you could have done. You can stop them from hanging out with certain friends or take away their car or whatever you can think of but an addict will do whatever it takes to get high.
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by vivid » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:11 am

You can stop them from hanging out with certain friends or take away their car or whatever you can think of but an addict will do whatever it takes to get high.
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by stevie » Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:18 am

Calm2000 wrote:and I must add....

I have this song go over and over in my head all day every day....

And I need to get it out of my brain...

I do not blame his friends... I do not blame anyone other than myself... for not listening....

God, I lost my baby son to this evil

I have two little boys myself, and if there is anything you could say that you feel you didn't do right, tell me...I mean....if there is something you think you could have done, what exactly could it have been?

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Skeet » Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:08 am

I am very sorry for your loss. I hope this may help.

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A special fathers day message!

Postby Skeet on Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:53 pm
I am very happy for you. I wish Brad had been able to emulate you! Papa

-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:Dmorgan918@aol.com
To: mailto:PapaNowell@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 9:11 pm
Subject: Legacy.........Brad

Greetings, I'm not really sure if this email address goes to Jim or
anyone in the Nowell family. But, I thought I'd give it a
shot. My name is Dan Morgan and I live on the east coast in
Virginia. I became a Sublime fan like many others in the early
'90's. I'm 38 and closing in on 40 fast. Now, I'm sure that
you have gotten thousands of letters and emails of fans pouring out
their hearts to you. It does not surprise me that Brad had that much of an impact
on our culture. I grew up kind of the same way that Brad did, spending most of my days roaming the beaches of Ocean City for the nicest set
of waves. Since we are around the same age, a lot of what I read about him was like reading about the way I grew up. Surf, Skate and punk rock. Well, That is now a distant memory for me. The only reminders aside from the massive list of songs in my ipod, are the tattoos that cover my body. I also shared with Brad the same demons of addiction. Even after his death did not slow down my appetite for
achieving the euphoric high. Also, Like Brad I got married and we
had a baby boy who is now 5. Even with his birth and the many examples
of how addictions destroy families did not slow down my path of despair.
It's a bit eerie on how many addicts share almost identical life
stories. On top of the drug addiction, I became an alcoholic to
calm the withdraws from my drug habit. On day I happened to be
watching TV when an add came on with the song "What I got" playing in the back
ground. So, I naturally turned up the TV to see Troy and a young Jakob. It was a spot warning against the dangers of addiction. I
listened, but the demons were very fast in erasing any signs of
stopping. It wasn't until after the birth of my 2nd son and going on a 3
day binge were my wife finally told me that she was not going to watch
me destroy myself and our family. So, Just like a lot of addicts it was
off to rehab for me. It was like what alcoholics call a moment of clarity, I wanted to be the husband and Dad. I also knew that If I
didn't stop that I would have met the same fate like so many others
before. I have been sober for 1 year 1 month and loving every minute
with my family. I also see from the stand point of being a father
and how hard it would be to see my child struggle with addiction.
Although I cannot comprehend how it must be to lose a son, aside from
the fans, music, touring, awards. You are a father and that
finally sunk into my realm of thought. In the end Brad left a burning
example of love and peace in our society. He has benefited to the
cause of love and unity. How much you want to book Sublime to play in the
middle east and as Brad put's it, "spread the message of love." I want
to say thank you for the example you left in me to be a better father
and aside from all the hype your love for your son cannot be put into
words. So, I head back to my barbecue and answer the many questions
my boys ask from why is the sky blue to why did you let somebody draw
all over your body daddy!

To Jakob who I'm sure is a spitting image of Brad,
Your Dad touched so many lives with his message of love. Thanks for
taking the time to read yet another email from a fan. Peace and
love, Dan and Cindy, Andrew and Will Morgan If this is not the
email for the Nowell family, could you please pass it on to them.

Thanks!

Dan Morgan
"Success as I see it, Is a result not a goal." Gustave Flaubert
Dan Morgan"Laughter it's free, anytime just call me" Bradley Nowell
Dan Morgan"Laughter it's free, anytime just call me" Bradley Nowell

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Calm2000 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:42 am

what would I have done different?

I am not sure about this question....

I put my son in rehab 2 times....

Both times he came back saying "thanks mom".... And "I wont ever do that again" ...and he would say how grateful he was to have his life back....and how great it felt to be normal, and he would be the fantastic son that I gave birth to....but only for a few months.... I would have him back for just a few months before the demon took him again

What would I have done different????

Lock him away on a mountain? Out of reach of mankind?

I always thought I was a good parent that taught good values... I never did drugs... Took my children to church.... all of the above stuff...

Raised 2 other children that never touched drugs....

I fight my own demons as to how I let my baby son down...

I really don't know

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Calm2000 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:23 am

My ignorance of how to post here made me post incorrectly

I so deeply apprciate everyone on this site that has helped me try to deal with the loss of my son... He was was such a sweet child....

His memorial myspace website is

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =117066865

If you would please stop in and make a post to his memory

It helps me keep his memory alive

And yes... I am going to do something great in his honor

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Calm2000 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:29 am

ok.....

That Link does not work... my apologies

if you would do me the favor of saying hi to my beloved son.... I would love you forever

and here is the correct link

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... 8e617b2b04

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Jbonez » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:29 pm

I cant even imagine what that would be like, im so sorry.

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Calm2000 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:37 am

I have not been here in many months...

I thank all of you that helped me fight my demons.

I will not tell you that I am at total peace with what my son went through and how I may have let him down...

But I will say that I am getting better at dealing with it.

I don't blame myself as much as I did at first....

But yes, I do still hold some blame, and always will...

Kind of SUCKS to be me right now.

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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by CrazyFool828 » Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:31 pm

This must be really hard for you. I went to that myspace page and it made me sad just looking at it. I know what it is like to lose some one very important to me. Like one of my friends who was always supporting me. He was the one who I could talk about music to. He took me to a John Mayer concert which was awesome. He bought me a Fender Strat which I cherish this day. And would never let it leave me. Then about a month ago he passed away. And my life will never be the same. Just think that God has a plan and everything happens for a reason.
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by 5 Dollars » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:09 pm

Let's keep it respectful in this thread please. The Fail pictures were totally unnecessary. There are threads all over this board for you guys to mess around and joke...THIS ONE IS NOT FOR THAT! I removed the posts that were off topic.
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by Joe B. » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:56 am

It wasn't directed at the original poster. But w/e post nazi.
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by BongDub » Mon May 04, 2009 4:42 am

I think the song is about Heroin and Surfing :-?

its a confusing song...
Sublime uses to many metaphors in their Lyrics

but.. yea sorry bout the loss...
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by graydon » Tue May 05, 2009 9:37 pm

I think you can interpret the song to mean whatever you want it to mean.. thats the beauty of sublime and a lot of music.
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Re: BadFish Definition

Post by ConnyTheKid » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:34 pm

I've read that a badfish is someone that introduce someone else to heroin.

I think its about Brad trying to defeat his heroin addiction, anyway it's a great song and great lyrics.

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